Outdoor Experiment

So I had selected some phenos of three different genetics after resistencies last year but I never got to see the full flowers.

I‘m fantasizing about breeding a strain for germany‘s outdoor conditions, trying to breed a fern mutation into it on the long term for guerillia growing.

So I’ve planted 3 different strains in my garden, which does not meet the perfect conditions for direct light - I wanted to see them perform in a realistic environment.

The Strains are (all regular/not feminized)

Pakistan Valley from World of Seeds;

Kwazulu from World of Seeds;

Banana Chem Freak from TerpyZ

This year‘s weather started extremely dry and as we all experienced globally it got extremely hot.

It was very anomalous.

Perfect for testing - poor for taking pictures of it to show :laughing:

U got warned, these plant‘s do not look very well!

I stopped intervening after watering them the first two weeks.

They also weren‘t all the exact same size.

What I‘m comparing is which plant was able to regenerate from a very poor condition; which didn’t needed perfect conditions to grow and how early/long and stable they will flower.

I‘m adding the pictures in the next text below so hopefully they won‘t show before this information :sweat_smile:

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The Pakistan Valley didn‘t like the dry conditions at all. Compared to the other two, this variety stood up the worst against all odds. It also feels like it slightly delayed it‘s flowering. Expected to be the fastest one of the trio in this category it turned out to be the last one to start flowering.

This variety unfortunately is disqualified for breeding allready :sleepy_face: I‘m sorry.

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So the second in line is the BCF. The Mutant.

Breeding this into the line will cause real pain and headdache alone to how long it will take to get it stable.

But I have it already selected for stability and resistency and it turned out to take the extreme dry and hot weather like cozy optimal conditions. It‘s insane to see this next to sunburned trees and dead plants just thriving.

I‘m expecting a long flower from this one tho; so let‘s see how it likes cold temperatures :grin: in my testing before it promised to handle that aswell.

(3rd photo some clones in an other location)

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And the Kwazulu.. I wasn‘t too sure what to expect from this girl, and I have to say this was the weakest (to my fault) of the 3 before planting.

What I can clearly see here tho is that this pheno of the Kwazulu variety has a very efficient nutrient management. Nutrients get transported efficiently to the top leaves leaving white leaves below. Very radically.

This plant surprisingly was the first one to flower weeks before the PV. So it started about 14-13 h of light. More risky for indoor but gold for outdoor.

As a sativa this still might get close to ripening before winter because of this - which is pretty insane for Germany.

Might not look like it but this one is a winner.

I‘ve already selected a male Nothern Lights from Barney’s Farm to breed with :slight_smile:

I just have to find a logistical solution while I have my indoor tents constantly cycling into flower themselves.. I just might have missed my time window for this.

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Interresting project and cool of you to share pics of the real world, not only this fake hide everything not perfect world we have become

:ganjalove:

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Just an idea: what about trying self-pollinating the winner to get a good line of plants to fix desirable traits, and its adaptation to your garden's conditions (and then trying multiple cross like Barney's NL) ?

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I decided not to selfpolinate and to avoid feminization to achieve highest hormonal stability.

I‘d rather do this for a decade until I got the mix of traits that I want.

This will be a long and stony way to walk :slight_smile:

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All thanks to Prem!

She encouraged me to share the pictures :))

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Yes, I think we should share not only about successful plants but is also interesting to learn about those where we had some problems sometimes. We learn a lot from mistakes so this is why. Also the freaky looks very cool

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Thanks for sharing, very inspiring.

Once legalised worldwide that's one of the most important phase we'll see from cannabis amateurs: a great contribution to the creation of new landraces, and that will be made possible by your kind of work (long and patient try and fail process of adaptation of landraces/heirlooms to new latitudes and environments)

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I‘ve just checked for the male NL, which is indoors in my.. (I don‘t like to admit this but I have a) torture growtent :speak_no_evil_monkey:

In that tent I stresstest most of my new strains before growing them. Specially for sexual stability.

So I had 2 favorite NL‘s wich Both turned out to be male in pre flower.

One did bust very early in veg light cycle so I was left with the one i had. Which actually did well for months in that environment. But just now that I’ve checked it started to flower in the lower sections.

I feel like that dry conditions can trigger flower - specially male pollen.

Btw. All the variety‘s from my experiment went through this process and I only used the ones that could manage it.

Unfortunately this male made me feel less confident in using it now.. even if for outdoors the timing would match.. I think I’ll take the winter to select a stronger one.. which is a pretty painful decision to make since I’ve already invested like a year in selecting but never got somewhere with it yet :grin:

So I‘ll keep searching for a perfect male with short flower cycle.

I have to pheno Hunt in Small numbers due to law.

..And I might also add that I had prem‘s tiger Tail in that harsh tent aswell :man_golfing:

I did learn a lot about it allready, which includes learning that I won‘t be able to grow it in any situation that‘s available to me :sleepy_face:

But! That Thai Tiger Tails are literally invincible.

You can do anything to them an they will just come back instantly the next day you water them. Unfortunately too stretchy for indoors and too long flower for outdoors.

And - the experiment on my attic (outdoors lightcycle with indoors climate) got finished early by the hot temperatures.. wich actually didn’t even defeat the Tiger but me and I stopped going up there :laughing: I‘d have to carry water up there daily for a whole year.. I’m sorry - I’ve abandoned the Thai quest for now

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Feel free to inspire me with which Strain I should select and breed with the Kwazulu and Banana Chem Freak! :slight_smile:

Keep in mind that I can only legally buy seeds within the EU

And that I need a variety with short flower (7-8weeks)

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To grow subtropical / tropical landraces on different climate zone or indoor can be very challenging.

Anyway the grow can be optimized with light deprivation and pruning techniques and can be very rewarding, but yes it requires special dedication not easy.

This why many times I suggest to try hybrids from my farm , or others doing similar work, because you can keep a plant similar to a tropical landrace with some help on flowering time and schedule

To get something taste like that you can do by your own and cross those with the Tiger Tail or another Landrace for example

I think is hard to tell to others about what varieties use for make hybrid as the right choice depends on personal goals

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I left them until today and went looking.

PV struggles with pests. It‘s the best smelling plant tho :grin:

Yh, i think this variety would be more interesting for indoor growers.

The BCF or Freakshow in general is simply a beautiful plant to have in your garden. It perfoms better outdoors then indoor, let‘s see how fast it will finish. We are expecting a lot of rain the next weeks.

And then, now look at the Kwazulu.. while we have one of the warmest Septembers of the whole millennia it decided to purple like crazy.

I had her pre selected last winter for being resistent to cold and moisture. It really is a miraculous variety. I‘m allready in love with her. I‘m considering to select a variety named „Shit“ from Shantibaba to select as the male breeder.

Otherwise I could also reverse the BCF and cheat a little.. which I think I won‘t do, because I want a clean breeding line.

Look at this

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Totally agree on freak, got one indoor but its rather slow grower ,not much " lebenslust" but outdoor she behaves like a nutjob, can not compare it, these genetics do have a split personality issue :joy:.

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Exactly that haha

I am growing her indoors for fun and knowledge and she‘s really hard to „motivate“.

Once she‘s doing well tho, she is way more resistant to dry and hot conditions just like outside.

I feel like she‘s a little more sensitive to ph - maybe. And you don‘t want to overwater her at all because of the low transpiration surface.

I just hope she‘ll finish outside before winter. Won‘t be ready before end of October.

But all I can think of is the Kwazulu tbh..

Early flower and deep purple were 2 very pleasant surprises in a very resistant sativa. I‘m totally hyped up! This is a pure Landrace :saluting_face:

I might never be able to pull something alike again

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Holistic stuff brother​:joy:, got beans incoming from kwazulu, african sativas are special, esp South Africa and Malawi . if interested check out love of landrace seeds, shipped from within EU! The kwazulu is nice , story goes the Zulu people used it before battling and defeating the English.Shamans made utshewu ,a battle sniff , contained extremely high thc no cbd, made them very good warriors, like the famous battle of Isandlwana, where the fearlessness of the mighty Zulu warriors manifested due to the battle sniff. Unlike Durban or Malawi, she can handle colder climates due to coming from the Drakensberg mountains area . Fast flowering and resistant to cold night , will not get fast mildew or budrot. Srry got a weakness for African feral Cannabis , since i was a kid :joy:

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Yh, the Kwazulu is highly interesting :bud:

I also had some seeds of the Kilimanjaro strain, but never got to use them.

I choose them specifically because they have the mountain climate/resistency to cold and wet.

Now I’m interested in how they made the battle sniff :joy::blush:

I‘ll check out love of landrace seeds rn

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Well the flower time of the Kwazulu on world of seeds and love of landrace are drastically different!

WoS has like 9-10 weeks while LoL has between 14 and 17 weeks :thinking:

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Some will say its watered down, , but most likely whilst its from a clone that adapted to indoor grow or forced flower in june/ july,over the years in Europe , bit like ACE malawi( if you look closely at anesia seeds, they sell Dubi his Malawi killer as Malawi Gold at 10/12 weeks flower) and Malawi Gold from christiana seeds or lol or realseedcompany are more" feral " ( 14 to 16 weeks flower ,more variety and less tamed,not as in wild wild or gone back wild)

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